Many say he is flamboyant, while
others see him as a philanthropist; whatever, Bishop (Dr) Tom Samson is like an
elephant, you describe him depending on the side you are able to see.
Nevertheless Samson is the General Overseer of Christ Royal Family
International Churches, a visitor, Royal College of Education, among others. He
spoke to SUCCESS DAMIAN on Reigning in Life Conference titled ‘It’s War’, coming
up on July 4, 2019, among other national issues. Excerpts:
A conference titled ‘it’s war’
is coming, What is the reason behind this conference?
Yes the question has come up over and over, why war? Everybody is looking
for peace? 2004, I have been having a conference in Lagos titled Reigning in
Life Conference, it started since 2001. 2004 God began to minister to me, He
said my son, I want you to go out there, and launch attach against demonic
attacks. That many of my children they have been crying to me and it is as if I
am not answering them. And the lord told me the case of Daniel, He said when
Daniel was crying to me, I sent my angel to give me his report, to give him his
desire, but the Prince of Persia, the lord said there are many demonic powers,
certain household wickedness, frustrating my mandate in people’s lives, again
the lord told me, that I promised Moses 400 years to bring his children from
captivity, but they never come out until 430 years, there are demonic powers
that caused that 30 years delay.
The lord said there are certain persons that are supposed to be landlords
but they are still tenants, not because they are not hard-working, you can buy
land and somebody will take it from you. You can give money to a mason to
build, he can run away with it, but there are certain misfortunes in life, that
makes people look as if they don’t know what they are doing in life. The lord
said launch attack against bad luck, promise and fail, household wickedness,
demonic power.
Okay, lord how do I go about this? The lord said separate one section out
of Reign in Life Conference, and let everybody have the consciousness of war,
it is a spiritual warfare. Now, how do I start off? I need to make an
impression with this. And while I was pondering, thinking on how to go about
this, for God to give me this assignment, I need to take it seriously. I said
okay, it has to look military, because many times what people see, they can
easily relate with what they see. I am gonna put on camouflage so that you
would know that, yes, this is war. And 2004 in Lagos for the first time, I put
on camouflage, I made it very dramatic, I tumbled, I jumped, create fire
brimstone, it got Lagos, that is what I wanted.
Everybody was concerned, what is this man of God doing? Who is he
fighting? Even military, at Lagos Airport Hotel we are fierce looking military
men, SS men, welcome to the auditorium, what is this man up to, it was a slogan
all over Lagos, everywhere all over Lagos it is war, it caught the whole Lagos,
what is this it is war? People came, then they discovered that it was a
spiritual war, the lord honoured it, in that first meeting, the crowd was
excessive, the anointing was amazing, there were massive deliverance, people
were vomiting, things happened, everybody that saw it was afraid, you could see
the power of God.
Do you have any mentor, it is
on record that what you are doing now, Arch Bishop Benson Idahosa did the same
thing. Do you have any…
You see, I grew up in Benin City I
was born In Ile Ife, and as a teenager, I was in Benin and if I must tell you, people
ask me, are you among bishop boys? Are you papa son? You resemble bishop,
people say I am a bold man, I am confrontational. I saw that in Arch Bishop. You
can see a man afar of and swallow him, I swallowed Papa, there are threats in
me you can’t doubt, boldness, going for great things, accomplishment, going for
big project from nothing, believing I can dare anything, I never seen anything
too big to accomplish, and yet from low background, you could see another
spirit of Arch in me.
Any other men of God in Nigeria today you are
seeing as mentor
Oh Baba Oyedepo is another, any time I
am with him we spend nothing less than three hours. Because God uses me a lot
in area of education, as of today we have 15 schools, nursery primary,
secondary, college of education, we are running a university programme, Monarch
University, that we are now going through approval process, he moved to Canaan land,
me too I built a city there, Royal City in Ota, I am building one university,
he has built three, so those are the people that can give you encouragement. If
you are looking for a mentor look for people who have excelled in the area of
your dreams.
Any new thing you are bringing
to the table in this year’s it’s war?
Yea, This years’ it’s war is gonna be
more dynamic, because the lord is telling me it is going to be totally encompassing,
that we have to really going to visit foundations, God is telling me that this
period I should tell the people that the vision that they dropped, things that
did not work, he will make it to rise again. The lord said to me that the
people that are coming, they are tired, but let them know, I will tell God lord
I have obeyed you, move in now, you will see the power of God moving in
different dimension. I give you few days people gonna come back with their
testimonies
The situation in the country;
to some extent; people feel that government has a hand in certain things, especially
on issue of Islamization and Fulanisation.
What is your take?
Well, government has denied that
several times, let us take them by their word, even our VP, a Christian, has
said there is nothing like that, let us take them by their word, but certain
events have unfolded, position, ranking, the way positions are shared, how
Christians are removed from a place and replaced by Fulanis. There is quota
system in this country, where you have to share things equally, you have to
appreciate there are Igbos, Yoruba, Huasas, Fulanis, there has to be fair
deals. The President has explained he is putting people in trust, My appeal to
government, let there be fair share, we don’t need this suspicion, there has
been much outcry, and we need government that can listen to the cries of the
people. The Igbo people should be remembered, civil war has been fought so many
years back, let there be fair share, let everybody has part in the nation, the
sharing of positions is lopsided, people feel they are not well represented,
you say they have legislators but the executive commands the power. Major
decisions are taken at executive level. So my appeal is that government should
ensure fair share so that everybody would have a sense of belonging in this
country.
More than a month after
inauguration, no ministers, do have something to say?
Well it is better he takes his time
than to rush, let me tell you one thing, there are a lot of politicians
everybody is fighting for this, if he doesn’t take his time, like he said the
people he is going to bring this time around, are people that gonna function
very well. It is better late than never, we need help in this country, we need
people that can move us to the next level, just as the slogan of the
government, next level.
Your advice concerning other
pastors, bishops, towards humanity
Talking about helping humanity, you
have to look at their strength, there are many of my colleagues that are
struggling even to keep up with the daily budgets of their ministries, you see
many people I attended to, but many came for help. There is somebody I have
told pastor to go and see where they are living; they said there is no bed.
You see people have a misgiving, you
attend service today if you look at it some have been given out, because they
don’t know their legislators, they don’t know their senators, even the school
we have, many are on scholarship, there are even some pastors who cannot pay
their own rent, this thing has reverberating effect, the economy is affecting
people in the church.
There is reasoning that the standard of
education is falling, what do you do to ensure standard in all your schools?
You see that is why I built college
of education, knowing that I am into education, and when we applied for
permission to build college of education, they appealed to me to make sure that
as a man of God, we bring morals, and I gave them my word.
People say things are expensive
teachers also want big money, they go to the same market doctors go to, the
same market politicians go to, the days of giving teachers poor salaries are
over. In my school I make sure you follow the syllable, whatever that is there;
we have people that go round like inspectors, to make sure that standards are
followed.
What do you think government
can do at both federal and state levels?
They need to invest more, money is
the key. Sometime to build laboratory alone I spent 7m, 10m. In education you
need to upgrade, do you know there is money government supposed to pay to us,
we that are private owners, we are fighting for that, because education is
expensive. If I tell you what I pay every month, I have over 600 staff, if not
that I genuinely, I cannot fold up, because education is part of my services to
community. Government need to increase their budget on education. They should
extend the largess to private practitioners as well.
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