His Eminence, the Most Reverend Emmanuel Udofia, the Primate of
the African Church Worldwide will be 60 years on January 26, 2019. As part of
preparation towards the birthday celebration, the respected man of God spoke to SUCCESS DAMIAN, on his life’s experiences, the church and national
issues, especially the forthcoming 2019 General Elections. Excerpt:
Sir 60 years, first, I must say congratulations. 60 years is not
a joke, so looking back, how has the journey been this past 60 years?
Thank you very much. Whatever I am going to say, I would base it
on the scriptures because John 15 verse 5 Jesus said if you abide in me and I
in you, you should bear much fruit for without me you can do nothing. So this
60 years of my existence, by the grace of God has been with more and more of
thankfulness unto the lord, because I have seen his faithfulness in every area
of my life. And again the bible has also told us that our delight should be in
the lord and he will grant us the desires of our hearts, so because my desire
is in Him, from time to time, day in day out, year in year out, the lord has
been granting my heart desires, and again the bible said we should commit all
our desires in Him, and trust in Him. All these 60 years, because by His grace
I have been committing my ways unto Him, it has been the lord who is always
faithful and who is always with us in helping us, sustaining us through this
sixty years so everything has been the lord. I thank God for his faithfulness.
My lord, what can you say is your greatest source of joy over
the years? There must have been an encounter that has exceedingly made you
happy even from childhood.
My greatest joy in this world is my experience in the lord Jesus
Christ. The bible has given us the word of God that the joy of the lord is our
salvation, and that our joy comes from knowing the lord. So my salvation is an
experience which only God made it to happen in my life; a gift which my parents,
a gift which no human being on earth could give to me. The lord out of his
benevolence gave me the grace to have a share in his salvation, in the
redemptive work of our Saviour Jesus Christ, so that is the greatest source of
my joy in this world, every other thing that gives me joy in this world is
secondary.
Sir I know in life it is not all rosy, there is no rose without
thorns, so there must have been one or two challenges along the way, tell us
what they are sir.
I wouldn’t say there are no challenges, but challenges are part
of our human existence, the bible says we should cast all our anxieties, all our
challenges, all our cares in Him for He cares for us. So whatever has been the
challenges, spiritually, physically, and otherwise, all these things have
already been committed on to hm. He is the one who gives us the grace to
overcome every challenge. You cannot roll away challenges because it is not
every challenge is for destruction. There are some challenges that help to lift
you up, to build you, some challenges make you say yes, there is nothing God
cannot do. There are challenges which make you to call God more, move you
closer to God. With that kind of situation you experience God the more, you
experience the power of God and his glory. In fact coming out of such an
experience would strengthen you the more. Some challenges make you to discover
and recover what you might have lost over the years. You can come out of the
storm of life without being spoiled, without being destroyed. Challenges help
us rise higher and higher. So all my challenges have been so helpful to me,
even the temptation that come to every believer is not to destroy us, it is to
make us rise higher and higher as an eagle.
Now let us bring in the church in our discussion. Sir, how long
have you been in the service of God and what inspired you to embrace God?
By the grace of God, I am not talking about when I was a Sunday
school teacher or organizing other programmes in the church, but from the time
I was ordained. I was ordained in 1983, and since then I have been in the
ministry of our lord Jesus Christ. So from 1983 till now, by the grace of God,
this is 36 years in the ministry. So what inspired me to embrace God? As I said,
it is never something that came by my own ability, or by the thing I said I
could do by myself. No. I am just enjoying the grace and mercy of the lord
drawing me close to himself. So how it happened, I didn’t know because He was
the one. I won’t say, this is what attracted me to God, rather I would say it
was God who attracted me to himself because I never merited all the lord has
been doing for me. I want to believe that the day I was born so many other
people were also born and again I want to say this that all that I have passed
through in this life if not because of the mercy of God I would not be alive by
now.
How are you able to combine church activities and still stay
close to your family?
I thank God for what the lord has been doing, the lord has been
so faithful, the family was instituted by God and the ministry was also
instituted by God, so the two institutions were initiated by God, so if
somebody is now is in God, through Christ Jesus, because with God, God’s mercy,
God’s power, God’s grace and compassion, all things are possible. So combining
the ministry and the family is nothing one could say is difficult. Again,
family by the grace of God, myself, my lovely wife and children, since all of
us are in the lord Jesus Christ also makes it possible for the ministry now to
flourish, because the bible says where two or three are gathered in my name I
am there in the midst of them, so you can now see the ministry did start with
my family because we are more than three. From smaller ministry to the bigger
ministry. So it has been so wonderful by the grace of God. By the grace of God my
wife being a school teacher, my children, sometimes they will miss me for
weeks, months, but having known why they have missed me, they are not
regretting because by the grace of God everybody has an assignment and
responsibility. We understand our responsibilities and areas of calling. God
has been so faithful.
Sir, let us go a little further, what is your take on the
current political happenings in Nigeria, are you satisfied and why?
As a servant of God I feel so sad because of the political
tension in the political atmosphere in the country, because I listen to all the
political campaigns, most of them are nothing to write home about, this is not
the kind of campaigns we should be doing in the 21st century.
These campaigns are full of hate speeches, full of insults, they are full of
abuses; they are full of character assassinations, full of all kinds of things,
this is not what we had expected at a time like this, but it is unfortunate. I
am not happy at all, going by what I have been reading on the pages of the dailies,
television and radio. I believe, this is the time Nigeria should sit back, I
know we should have political parties but we should know that political parties
will come and go but Nigeria will still remain.
And again political parties no matter the party someone belongs,
everybody should work towards building a great Nigeria which everybody should
be proud of, but unfortunately with what is happening now, we are more divided
than before. Without God’s intervention I don’t know where we are heading to, because
of this political hatred.
This is certainly not the kind of Country we are praying for,
but I know with the prayers of the saints, we love Nigeria, God will
intervene and show mercy on this nation and take us out of the hand of those
who do not mean well for this nation, in Jesus name, amen.
The 2019 General Election is around the corner and the nation
wants to hear words of advice, encouragement and hope from respected men of God
like you, your advice sir.
I want to advise Nigerians that whatever we are looking forward
to doing especially in this kind of election, we should do it with the fear of
God, when anything is done with the fear of God, number one it will mean giving
God the glory, that will make us first to receive God’s blessings, and so on and
so forth. We must also avoid this is my time syndrome, the security agents
would say this is my opportunity, this is also time to enrich myself; some
would now go and connive with the electoral officials, political parties.
Electorates should not say this is my own time to get whatever I want, we
should do what is right.
I want to advise INEC and those in position of authority we
should avoid manipulation of electoral process to favour one candidate or the
other, because we have seen now that at times, the electoral processes, they
don’t do it right, all Nigerians should be treated the same, all political
parties should be treated the same, INEC should be neutral in all
ramifications. Everybody should know that whatever we do we shall give God
account. Everybody should know that if you want to play a game, you will never
play a game with God. The evil that men do live after them, it may not be
today, God’s judgement may not be today, but it will surely come. They should
not manipulate any electoral processes in favour of anybody.
I want to advise Nigerians against violence, violence does not
pay anybody, it does not add anything to Nigeria rather it subtracts, you can
imagine when this Boko Haram started many thought it is not what the country
should worry about. Look at the herdsmen, when it started the government did
not pay attention, then the two forces now grew and became what they are today,
if you want to quantify the number of casualty or people that have died through
Boko Haram and through herdsmen you will see that people will be
discouraged in this nation and if not because of God you will hate anybody in
Nigeria.
If Nigeria wants to quantify all the casualties, all the
government institutions destroyed, churches destroyed, all the mosques destroyed,
all the houses destroyed, you would see that trillions of Naira can never be
enough to buy all these things, and that is why Nigerians are always behaving
like beggars, Nigeria that should be supporting other nations, is always asking
for help from every nation. Nigeria that God has so endowed, even those nations
supporting Nigeria do not have what Nigeria has, but unfortunately, because of
violence, corruption, Nigeria behaves as if nothing good is coming from
Nigeria.
I also want to plead with Nigerians, Nigerians, this is our
country, we should vote for credible, God fearing people, because, if Nigerians
vote people that are not credible or people that are corrupt, that means
Nigerian treasury cannot be safe.
My lord, I am sure with your success in the ministry, I am sure
you have the capacity to have as many children as possible…
I have only six children by the grace of God.
I have seen your church, schools and others, do you have any
form of empowerment for your congregation and community where you operate?
When I was in one of the dioceses in the south-south, I had a
sewing institute, where young boys and girls were trained even some adults, at
the end of every training each person that completed his or her training, during
their freedom, by the grace of God, I would make sure I bought all machines,
everything to equip them; they were trained free of charge and given machines
free of charge.
So since I am not there, that does not mean I have not been
playing my part in empowering so many financially and otherwise. Only God knows
the number of appeals, letters, messages, asking for one help or the other. And
again, there are some appeals of course you cannot turn down. If I tell you
what God has used me to do in this place, if you want to quantify it you will
be surprised, but you cannot blow your trumpet. According to the scriptures,
whatever your left hand does, your right hand should not know about it and vice
versa. If not because you ask me, I don’t tell anybody this is what I have done.
I don’t want human praises, I am only an instrument in the hand of God because
God could have used another person.
Sir can you tell us the programmes lined up for your 60 years
birthday celebration?
I planned to do it in a big way by the grace, but due to some
circumstances I decided to mellow it down, I think the planning committee is
doing a lot, part of the plans include visit to orphanage homes, Bible quiz for
the younger ones, other things are within me which I don’t want to unravel now.
Sir your name sound Igbo, you are operating here in Lagos but a
lot of things you have here, some other people would say, let me go and do it
in my town, what is the driving force?
Yes, if you are a servant of God and decides to do whatever you
want to do only in your home town alone, then that person is selfish, and such
a person can never be said to be doing the lord’s will, because anywhere you
are is your neighbor. According to bible interpretation, everybody is your
neighbour, every woman is your mother, very girl is your sister, every man is
your father, every young man I your brother.
It therefore means we have them everywhere, so if the person
determines and say as I come from Akwa-Ibom now, I must do it in Akwa ibom,
Niger Delta or South-south, that person can never do God’s will, and God cannot
entrust more in his hand, because he who is faithful in little is faithful in
much.
Succession, are you thinking along that line?
By the grace of God we are praying towards that, anything that
concerns the church is not something that can be handled physically alone or
constitution alone, it should be handled spiritually, biblically. God is the
head, the next person there is only representing God.
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