You said something about the
young ones ruling this country, really there must be something behind it, is
that our youths are not owning up to come out to contest for elections?
We
have brilliant youths in Nigeria but not buoyant youths. There is the difference
between being buoyant and being brilliant, you know, any person that is in the place
of power would want to remain in that place, and they don’t even want their
children to move out of that terrain. So they will not give opportunity
to anybody that does not belong to them to enter there. When we say we have
brilliant youths and not buoyant youths, I am talking in terms of money.
Politics in Nigeria is money. It is either by money or by violence, but if we
see even the youth organization that can come together, you know, I first talk
about disunity in the church, then there must be disunity in the country. The
bible says that the government is put on the shoulder of God meaning that the
church also have a lot of work to do when it comes to government.
Let
me tell you something, the place of power, you know sometimes, is not by age,
it is by grace, for now everybody ruling us in Nigeria they are over aged. They
should retire, there is what is known as retirement for government employees,
but in presidency, I have not seen retirement in that [place. There should be,
the narrative of Nigeria, we have to revisit it to suit the youths. They will
say can’t youth come, can’t youth come, we need the youth, but the people
saying they need the youth are still the ones blocking the youths from
entering. My prayer is, after this time God will recreate chances for our
youths to come in that government.
Are you against Christians
coming into political power like the president?
If
anybody should talk about that it could be the ignorant people, people that do
not know their right from their wrong, Isaiah 11 verse 1 and 2 says that ‘from
the stump of Jesse a shoot will come forth; from his root a branch will grow
and bear fruit. The spirit of God will rest upon him: the spirit of wisdom and
understanding, a spirit of counsel and
power, a spirit of knowledge fear of God’. One of the things we need to know
here, every of these spirit is been given to children of God, and I want to say
to you that as far as I am concerned, a Christian is supposed to be in the
place of leadership throughout the world, so if anybody say, the seat of
government is a corrupt seat, it is because the person that will correct it has
not come. So I am one of the people that want Christians to be in that place.
We need people who love God, born again Christians to be there.
You said you heard some things
from God on the matter of the nation could you let us know some of these things?
Sometime
ago I said it that if Nigeria didn’t pray very well, the leaders will be running
up and down, some of them will be running to their security house, let me stay
with you tonight I will pay you, because the bad guys are no longer looking
for, according to what God showed me, they are no longer looking for the poor,
they are looking for the rich even with the support of their security
personnel, when you see the noble running to the house of the one you tell,
come here you stupid driver, and you are running to the house of the driver,
that is to tell you there is something coming. But I pray the lord will avert
it. Wisdom will be given to our leaders. As we clock 60 we will not be a fool
forever.
What is your view on CAMA
because some pastors are fighting against it?
It
would have been a good thing if we have a body of government that care for his
citizens. Now there are many churches that are more organized than the seat of
power in Nigeria. Talking about palliatives during the Covid-19 outbreak, we as
a church The Cross Christian Center we call all our members and street people,
we have to give them palliatives, we did it three times in this pandemic, not
that there was money somewhere, but we have the things of the people by heart.
When you look at government what can they say they have done for the church
that is making them to do this, the present situation of Nigeria, I can boldly
say that the law cannot work.
Concerning covid-19 what has
the church learnt from it, and what has it changed in the church?
I can
say a lot, in most churches, one it is for us to prepare, it is also for us to
let our members to be empowered. Some members, some Christians are lazy. I used
to pray severally many years ago, I tell, mostly teachers in our church look
for something you do after school, and when this thing happened all of them said
Pastor used to say it. It made several churches that have not been online to be
known. As a matter of fact since this covid-19 I have worked so seriously more
than ever before in my ministry, because we have to keep the heart of people
busy for their heart no to be derailed. We discovered that in so many churches
the heart of some people were going away from the lord, even when they said
churches should resume, few people want to resume, not because of corona virus
but because they enjoy staying at home.
What did the lord tell you
concerning Nigeria as it turn 60?
For
October 1, I have not received anything from the lord. But what I have in my
spirit mind that I have been praying we need to go back to that. When you look
at the coat of arm you see the motto, which says Peace and Unity, we need to go
back to that, because we had such 50 years ago, so in this country we need a
symposium on peace and unity. The prayer I have been praying for Nigeria lately
is let there be peace and unity.
What are you telling the
youths, to change their mindset and for majority of Nigerians to actually vote
right during elections?
Majority
of Nigerians, about 75% of Nigerians are well informed when it comes to
politics. But the problem is this; it is to find a way of eradicating the issue
of money in politics, because they know that some percentage of Nigerians are
poor. The only thing to win their heart is to give them money. When you send
money to them they will submit to you no matter who they are. One of the things
that can make a lot of people to deny even their father in politics is money,
what a lot of people are looking for on this earth is money, but the issue is
to give a particular lecture on how not to be bought over. It has been a serious
issue.
The governorship election in
Ondo is coming up in October, what are you telling the people of Ondo?
The
only thing I will tell them is, you have to know who you are, many of the
people you are dying for they don’t worth it. And also another thing I want
everyone to know is this, very important, you don’t know who will die on
election day, before election, after election, so you have to be very very
careful not to be the scapegoat, when you die your children will suffer for it,
if you are married, your wife will suffer for it, or your husband, you don’t
need to kill yourself for something that does not worth it. As a matter of fact
politics is not to kill people. It is not to waste your life for something that
does not matter. Think of the future of your life, so don’t sell your vote,
don’t kill yourself, don’t be violent and do not join the bad gangs because you
need money, everything is just money, money, money, you should think rightly
and you should vote wisely.
Your advice to the youth
There
is what is called the youthful age, a lot of youth abuse it. There a lot of
youth that are into fraudulent acts, otherwise known as yahoo, but I can tell
you that there is no future a gangster or being a cultist, you have to look at
yourself and think of a better life God has given to you. There is something
you carry as an individual; nobody can be the best than you are.
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